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    Dear Bob, here are some photos of my life here on the campus of Concordia Seminary. I love kids, working with the grounds crew, swimming, playing with my dog friends, and especially my own family people.
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    April 28, 2008



    Yea! Why are we behind the curve on these important issues?
    Recycling can be very good, but one has to consider the cost associated with recycling. Extra wear and tear on roads, with an additional truck and additional fuel to transport the recycled material can have a negative affect. Studies have shown the recyling program in Seattle, Wash. actually does more damage to the environment.
    A much better approach may be to have centralized drop off sites. Madison county has implimented this program. Would be great to see it in Collinsville. This can be much more environmentally friendly. Just like the paper and can recyling bins at many churches. Saves on fuel and emmissions into the air.


    Ron, I think you'll find centralized drop off centers won't generate the same amount of recyling. It means carrying it around in the car and making an extra trip. Some will do this, but most won't be consistent about it.

    I can't really buy the wear and tear on the road argument and Seattle is one of the greenest, most renewal, reuseable recyclable cities in the country.


    I would like to see the larger containers. I have (2) of the current City of Collinsville green boxes and have them full each week. I lived in (The People's Republic of) Madison, Wisconsin for 4.5 years and there we had a centralized recycling center run by the city. You brought in your own materials, but you also got paid for them. I prefer to put it in the bin and let the city (or their contractor) take it from there.


    Over 1/3 of the people living in Collinsville live in apartments/condos and do not participate in the city recycling program. This is common in many communities, although Collinsville has one of the highest multifamily populations in the area.
    Centralized containers/locations would be advantageous for these people and others.
    As far as extra trips, it is not a problem. When you are going to church or plan on passing the recycling location, just take the recyling material along. That's what I do. No extra fuel wasted.
    As far as the Seattle study, the extra fuel used by the large trucks produced more pollution than was reduced by recylcing. Just because a city makes a claim doesn't make it so.
    Centralized locations may take a little more effort, but they have been shown to be the most effective recycling effort.


    Any studies out there on the efficiency of the 64 gallons carts? I've used one for the last couple years and find them easy to use, but are they cost efficient in the long run?

    Previously we had one of the smaller bins. I got a couple of extras and put newspapers in one, plastics in another, glass and cans in another, etc. Minimally more work for me, and when recyclables were picked up, they were put into separate compartments of the truck.

    Now everything gets thrown into one big cart, dumped into one big truck, and some poor jamoke at the plant has to wade through all of it and separate it.

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